tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post2598922274080473690..comments2023-11-05T07:45:02.082-05:00Comments on Mystery Man on Film: Indiana Jones 4Mystery Manhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17486331815227364944noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-45878671888546452422009-04-04T15:06:00.000-04:002009-04-04T15:06:00.000-04:00anon - that's great stuff, man! Thanks so much fo...anon - that's great stuff, man! Thanks so much for that link!<BR/><BR/>-MMMystery Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17486331815227364944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-83210733719116845162009-03-30T21:37:00.000-04:002009-03-30T21:37:00.000-04:00I scoured the net for every Eden rumor, filed unde...I scoured the net for every Eden rumor, filed under "Indiana Jones 4.3". You think you're done with 4... but Nathanson's draft is bound to surface!<BR/>http://moedred.livejournal.com/9867.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-12192764754247034442008-10-13T19:36:00.000-04:002008-10-13T19:36:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-3416234365643854982008-10-13T19:35:00.004-04:002008-10-13T19:35:00.004-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-75688553116928752062008-10-13T19:35:00.003-04:002008-10-13T19:35:00.003-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-2143036787725045372008-10-13T19:35:00.002-04:002008-10-13T19:35:00.002-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-55029491187749897592008-10-13T19:35:00.001-04:002008-10-13T19:35:00.001-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-37246883068637920792008-10-13T19:35:00.000-04:002008-10-13T19:35:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-67317366015778620762008-08-25T01:35:00.000-04:002008-08-25T01:35:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-84543763291918584812008-05-21T12:33:00.000-04:002008-05-21T12:33:00.000-04:00Great post. Sounds like they had top men working ...Great post. Sounds like they had top men working on that script.<BR/><BR/><I>Top...men.</I>Big Mike Mendezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13883097296917205119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-52651382958593083482008-05-21T10:15:00.000-04:002008-05-21T10:15:00.000-04:00Ali - I'm honored! I'm only sorry that I didn't k...Ali - I'm honored! I'm only sorry that I didn't know about the blog-a-thon beforehand, as I would've been happy to participate with a new article.<BR/><BR/>Be well,<BR/><BR/>-MMMystery Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17486331815227364944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-51168859842781001322008-05-21T01:43:00.000-04:002008-05-21T01:43:00.000-04:00I am going to add a link to this great piece on th...I am going to add a link to this great piece on the blog-a-thon. I hope that's fine by you.Ali Arikanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02293558856795196349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-50496471343389653122008-04-09T18:26:00.000-04:002008-04-09T18:26:00.000-04:00Dude, please do just a little fact-checking.I only...Dude, please do just a little fact-checking.<BR/><BR/>I only got a little bit into the article before I saw this ridiculously false bit of nonsense:<BR/><BR/>"At the time, Columbus was known for writing and directing Goonies. "<BR/><BR/>Um, Columbus did not direct "The Goonies", but writing it was far from his most notable accomplishment at that point.<BR/><BR/> By 1997 he was a VERY successful director who had made, among other things, "Home Alone" and "Mrs. Doubtfire."<BR/><BR/>You, of course, could have learned all of this yourself with a ten second imdb check.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-77971294639571644732007-05-26T11:56:00.000-04:002007-05-26T11:56:00.000-04:00Hey, Ricky! Can I just say that you did such a sup...Hey, Ricky! <BR/><BR/>Can I just say that you did such a superb job on those posters. I really loved them.<BR/><BR/>Thanks, man.<BR/><BR/>-MMMystery Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17486331815227364944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-71463504163055296972007-05-24T16:10:00.000-04:002007-05-24T16:10:00.000-04:00Ricky "Gobi-1" Kennedy here. Thanks for using two ...Ricky "Gobi-1" Kennedy here. Thanks for using two of my fan art posters. That article was fascinating. I had never heard of the "Red Scare" script. Lots of interesting information.<BR/><BR/>You can check out more of my fan art through the link in my name.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-79469901401620638032007-05-23T23:31:00.000-04:002007-05-23T23:31:00.000-04:00I hadn't seen that rough cut gif before. That's p...I hadn't seen that rough cut gif before. That's pretty funny.<BR/><BR/>I think the fact that Babcock was in my own notes and that I had always believed this rumor betrayed me. You're absolutely correct in that there's almost no evidence of Mr. Drew Babcock online, and despite the claim that he was/is a freelance writer for the <I>Washington Post</I>, he's nowhere to be found on the <A HREF="http://www.washingtonpost.com/" REL="nofollow">WP website</A>.<BR/><BR/>And frankly, I've always found this story about the theologian to be a little suspect, too. Ya know, I'm leaning heavily toward the notion that this <I>Garden of Life</I> business was total bunk.<BR/><BR/>For those of you who are not familiar, listed below is the only remaining evidence online about this <I>Garden of Life</I> rumor and it's all found <A HREF="http://web.archive.org/web/20020205182758/corona.bc.ca/films/details/indy4A.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>:<BR/><BR/>"<I>July 22, 1996</I>... Drew Babcock, a freelance writer for film and television at the <I>Washington Post</I> writes to us to tell of a recent interview with Steven Spielberg. One answer he could not be too specific about was the next Indiana Jones film. Spielberg may or may not direct it depending on his schedule at DreamWorks. However Speilberg said any ideas of the lost city of Atlantis have not been a part of the script process. He also did say that the movie may have an ancient biblical element. When asked what kind, Spielberg said something 'to do with Adam and Eve'. Babcock was interested, and decided to pursue it further - a source at Paramount told him the title 'Indiana Jones and the Garden of Life' is being tossed around. [<I>Scoop credit to Drew Babcock and his Resources of Plenty. Thanks Drew!</I>]"<BR/><BR/><BR/><I>September 9, 1997</I>... Here are a couple of new strong rumors to toss on the ol' Indy pile. If this keeps up the page'll begin to look like the present James Bond page...<BR/><BR/><I>"While I was managing a movie theater here in Moscow, Idaho, one of my employees told me about a local resident (a friend of her father's) who was approached by someone connected with Spielberg and the Indiana Jones IV development team.<BR/><BR/>"This resident (who I am acquainted with; a friend of my family as well) is a minister and theologist. He recently took a trip back east for biblical research, and became involved with a study of Genesis.<BR/><BR/>"So, somewhere along the line, someone connected with Indiana Jones IV heard about his studies and asked him to participate in fact-checking and historical accuracy with Indy Jones IV. He mentioned to my employee that they sent him a completed script to be checked for biblical truth and reverancy. He read the script and gave it his personal seal of approval.<BR/><BR/>"He mentioned that the script dealt with the Garden of Eden, and its discovery by Indiana Jones. He said that it was extremely religous in its tone, and that it played with some of the same elements as Raiders of the Lost Ark. He also said that the script was only a 'possibility,' one of several possible ideas for Indy IV. He said it was very exciting and would play well as a film.<BR/><BR/>I would have to rate this scoop as extremely reliable; I know this minister and theologist personally. I have no doubts as to the accuracy of this story."</I> We'd love to be able to confirm the existence of multiple Indy 4 scripts and/or proposals besides the older (and already passed-by) ones. [<I>Scoop emailed to us by 'meadow1'.</I>]"Mystery Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17486331815227364944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-69464008757288540592007-05-23T21:12:00.000-04:002007-05-23T21:12:00.000-04:00This site copied the rumor too. http://www.indy-ne...This site copied the rumor too. http://www.indy-net.co.uk/articles.php?article_id=6<BR/>I don't find much evidence of Drew Babcock the writer out there. I'm more curious about the theologian from Moscow, Idaho who supposedly consulted on the script. Anyway, such rumors inspired this (another poster for your collection): http://www.theindyexperience.com/humor/img/rough_cut_rumours.gifAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-23598971190184623752007-05-22T20:26:00.000-04:002007-05-22T20:26:00.000-04:00I just updated that 1996 portion of the article.-M...I just updated that 1996 portion of the article.<BR/><BR/>-MMMystery Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17486331815227364944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-35347561861546863852007-05-22T19:14:00.000-04:002007-05-22T19:14:00.000-04:00Hey there,Thanks for that link. Seeing that again ...Hey there,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for that link. Seeing that again reminded me that I meant to include the story about the people at Lucasfilm referring to "Sons of Darkness" as "Indiana Jones and the Sons of Plagarism." Hehehe...<BR/><BR/>I seem to recall reading it, but I'm honestly not sure. I could shoot myself for not copying and pasting those interviews into my notes. If it was anywhere online at the time, I certainly would have read it. All I had in my notes was "Corona, Drew Babcock, Spielberg interview" and a dead link (http://corona.bc.ca/films/details/indy4.html). NOW, of course, the only other reference to this Drew Babcock business I could find is the link you shared (thank you) and the Indyfan Reality Check found <A HREF="http://www.indyfan.com/articles/reality.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>.<BR/><BR/>I'm glad you brought up the Garden of Life rumor, because that was really interesting research. I honestly don't know what to think about it. I can't imagine what the Maguffin would've been apart from the tree itself. I had always believed this rumor before, but now I'm not so sure. The only source to this rumor (that I'm aware of) was <A HREF="http://web.archive.org/web/20020205182758/corona.bc.ca/films/details/indy4A.html" REL="nofollow">Corona’s Coming Attractions</A>, and they would share any and all good or bad rumors that floated by them. I really wish I could've gone back to this supposed Spielberg interview to verify that the "Adam and Eve" story was really true, because I'm not fully convinced yet. Nobody else talked about it, although it's frequently confused with Chris Columbus' "Monkey King," which I think was a different script. And going through that link you shared again, it seems pretty clear to me that it most certainly is a different script.<BR/><BR/>If you have anymore details to share, I'm all ears.<BR/><BR/>-MMMystery Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17486331815227364944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-80385248018583585192007-05-22T13:36:00.000-04:002007-05-22T13:36:00.000-04:00Was the Spielberg interview Drew Babcock described...Was the Spielberg interview Drew Babcock described ever printed or recorded? I'm not sure... http://web.archive.org/web/20020205182758/corona.bc.ca/films/details/indy4A.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-89848510943916733622007-04-09T21:16:00.000-04:002007-04-09T21:16:00.000-04:00I believe you! I certainly didn't mean that you w...I believe you! I certainly didn't mean that you wouldn't know better. When it comes to Indy, the web is, indeed, a web of lies... I think it was the Hollywood Reporter who jumped the gun and reported that those deals have been made because they ASSUME those deals WILL be made. Then everyone else blindly follows in line reporting it as if it's gospel truth.<BR/><BR/>I would agree with you about Connery, but he's so popular, he has to make some kind of appearance. The problem is, how do you incorporate him into the story? As you pointed out, their storyline is resolved and his lifelong ambition (holy grail) has been realized. So what do you do with him? I liked what Jeb Stuart did in his Saucer Men script. He gave Henry Jones Sr. a small but very humorous appearance at Indy's wedding. I love the way he's the voice of reason about how quickly Indy's jumping into this marriage, gives his mother's advice about not blowing it, and when the bride's abducted right before the ceremony, he leans over to Indy and says, "See, these are the things a long engagement would point out." Hehehe... I do love the wedding idea. Jeb really nailed the characteristically humorous comments of Henry Jones Sr. in his script.<BR/><BR/>But your point about piling on new characters in sequels is a good one and the biggest reason I'd be opposed to the idea of a son or a bad seed brother. The plate is already full, thank you very much.<BR/><BR/>-MMMystery Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17486331815227364944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-89240974206385788532007-04-09T16:28:00.000-04:002007-04-09T16:28:00.000-04:00Oh, believe me, I don't believe half of what I rea...Oh, believe me, I don't believe half of what I read on imdb, just food for thought.<BR/><BR/>I personally would prefer if Sean was not in the movie, unless of course, he dies at the very beginning. It always bugs me when sequels seem to pile up with characters from the previous films, leaving little or no time to develop new characters (see the Batman sequels, Shrek, etc.), just to get some cheap applause from the audience.<BR/><BR/>The story of Indy and his dad was brought to a conclusion in the Last Crusade, what other reason would there be to have him in the fourth film? Sometimes, puppies need to die. hahahahaMickey Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00412489099199994379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-18324578894902529562007-04-08T21:15:00.000-04:002007-04-08T21:15:00.000-04:00l'homme qui sait - Thanks!Joe - Esquire had a grea...l'homme qui sait - Thanks!<BR/><BR/>Joe - Esquire had a great article in their June '04 issue (I read Esquire religiously), which I really loved but chose not to reference. It was about a lot of things - how difficult it would be to make this deal, Lucas' killer deals of the past, possible jealousies between Lucas and Spielberg, and the idea that Lucas always saw himself as the driving force behind every story of every Indiana Jones movie, and because he was left out of Spielberg and Darabont's script-writing efforts, he exercised his veto rights. I think it's true. It had nothing to do with Ford's demands, it had to do with a script and a story originating from Lucas that everyone agreed on. And it had to do with finances.<BR/><BR/>guillermo - Connery will absolutely do it, but right now, make no mistake - they're tearing each other apart over money.<BR/><BR/>Todd - If you're talking about that immigration movie, it's okay. It has an April 11 start date, and he'll be done in time. It has a Babel-like structure, so the role's not that big.<BR/><BR/>Thanks, Pat.<BR/><BR/>Mickey - Hey, man. You are, of course, familiar with the older version of the Indy IV post. This is much better, isn't it? The posters really helped. Lucas' line about "always bowing to the wishes of his director" is a crock. If that's the case, he would've gone with Darabont's script. There's a lot of ego here, I made concessions to allow Connery to be his dad, so you have to make concessions to me about the next story, etc, etc, etc. All this talk about Cate and Ray being cast is not true. They're all still in negotiation, and it's certainly possible it may not work out. The assumption is that the deal will be made. Money is tricky about this final film, and some of these deals may not be made. In truth, they are all STILL in negotiation.<BR/><BR/>-MMMystery Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17486331815227364944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-7975420936895248902007-04-08T18:11:00.000-04:002007-04-08T18:11:00.000-04:00From Friday's IMDB:"Movie mogul George Lucas refus...From Friday's IMDB:<BR/><BR/>"Movie mogul George Lucas refuses to give up on recruiting Sean Connery for the fourth Indiana Jones movie, despite the Scottish star's reluctance to sign on as the adventurer's father. Connery has been linked to the upcoming fourth Indiana Jones movie, but insists he's not that interested in reprising his role as Henry Jones from Indiana Jones & The Last Crusade. That hasn't stopped persistent Lucas, who says, "We're still trying." In other Indiana Jones casting news, Lucas admits he was stunned when director Steven Spielberg told him he wanted to sign Cate Blanchett as Jones' love interest in the new film. He tells newspaper USA Today, "That's who my director wanted and I always bow to the wishes of my director. I approved it because she seemed like a good idea. When I met her at the Academy Awards, I told her, 'Hey, you work for me now!''"Mickey Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00412489099199994379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-46350041309483532922007-04-08T16:28:00.000-04:002007-04-08T16:28:00.000-04:00Wow, MM, you should be given the Pulitzer for blog...Wow, MM, you should be given the Pulitzer for bloggers for writing this. Do they have those?Mickey Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00412489099199994379noreply@blogger.com