tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post3308028509752078828..comments2023-11-05T07:45:02.082-05:00Comments on Mystery Man on Film: Today’s Sermon: “Quantum of Solace”Mystery Manhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17486331815227364944noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-32997138478928284692008-11-23T12:17:00.000-05:002008-11-23T12:17:00.000-05:00DQ - Thanks so much! You're very kind.-MMDQ - Thanks so much! You're very kind.<BR/><BR/>-MMMystery Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17486331815227364944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-53787959955561908192008-11-23T10:04:00.000-05:002008-11-23T10:04:00.000-05:00Brilliantly written. And that list of those who ha...Brilliantly written. <BR/><BR/>And that list of those who have strayed from the path of righteousness (or character-ness), spot onAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01018319254355470676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-75307273751859701872008-11-19T00:15:00.000-05:002008-11-19T00:15:00.000-05:00Thanks so much for all the comments!Hey James, no ...Thanks so much for all the comments!<BR/><BR/>Hey James, no I don't want sappy Bond. We almost got too much of that in the new film. No, Bond was always above this kind of brooding behavior. We love him for that! I can tell you exactly how I would've handled the sequel - this would've been about him rising above this shit and turning into the Bond we all know and love. Great comments. And this: "Also please, please, please establish a setup before you payoff the action" was my BIGGEST PET PEEVE about that film. They aimed for surprise over tension, and it just didn't work.<BR/><BR/>Anon - No worries. We like disagreement here. I need it to keep me honest!<BR/><BR/>Christian - Thanks for that. Great comments.<BR/><BR/>Purple - So much truth to that. A friend I went to see the film with told me, "I'll be happy so long as there's some good action." But he walked out unhappy because he didn't realize how much he also wanted CHARACTER. They THINK they don't care about characters; they don't SAY they care about characters, but they really do. I have to believe that.<BR/><BR/>BTW - Here are some comments I wrote to a friend about tension in QoS:<BR/><BR/>"Ya know, my theme would've been about Bond rising above the pain in order to get him to become that Bond that we all recognize. To me, they were not interested in shaping his character at all, and those "character moments" were more about striking emotional chords than advancing his story and that never worked for me.<BR/> <BR/>"The thing that grates me about the way they tell these stories (and I had a problem with this last time) is that you don't know what Bond is doing or why until after the fact. I had no idea what the point was of grabbing Camille off that boat or what that had to do with the mission. But apparently, he was simply trying to be nice and they never let us in to understand Bond's thinking here so that we could root for him. To not know the point deflates tension and undermines our interest. How can we care if we don't know what's at stake? If we knew in advance that Slate was about to have a meeting with Camille and Bond needs to intervene, then, yeah, I might've been more involved in that fight scene. Plus, I'd rather see him conflicted about killing men, showcasing some kind of inner conflict (duty vs. personal) in order to give him some depth than to simply see him brutally kill one man after another.<BR/> <BR/>"I don't know if that makes sense. We have to know the point before we see the action so that we'll be involved. At least, that's what I took away from it. It feels like amateurish writing to me to see sudden action without a point."<BR/><BR/>-MMMystery Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17486331815227364944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-22742168064339902302008-11-18T23:17:00.000-05:002008-11-18T23:17:00.000-05:00I am really beginning to think that nobody gives a...I am really beginning to think that nobody gives a crap about characters anymore. Sure, critics love characters, but the general audience today has been weaned on an overabundance of utter trash on t.v. over the past twenty years.<BR/><BR/>Take for example the crapfest "Max Payne." It had no characters and no real plot, yet when I walked out of the theater, several people actually said that they wanted to see "Max Payne" again. One of my co-workers, who is a college educated parent of three kids, said that she liked "Max Payne," and was going to buy it on dvd when it came out.<BR/><BR/>If a movie like Max Payne, based on an almost nine year old video game, that has no plot, no characters, and no real violence, can make almost $66 million dollars in a month, then pretty much it's "game over."<BR/><BR/>It pains me to say this, but why complain anymore? Ouantum of Suckace still broke box office records last week and will most likely break box office records this week as well, even with that retarded vampire movie coming out.<BR/><BR/>The general public does not give a shit about charcters, or plot, or story, or lighting, or sound design anymore. Just as long as you keep the movie moving forward, and blowing shit up (real good), you'll have a hit on your hands.<BR/><BR/>Just look at the "Pirates" films. I liked the first one, it was good. The next two "Pirates" films sucked. Why? Because the screenwriter duo had finally realized that they really did not need to spend the time agonizing over characters, plot, etc. All they had to do is keep the movie moving forward, forward, forward!<BR/><BR/>Eagle eye is another movie that just kept shit blowing up on screen and had the characters run, and run, and run, for no apparent reason till they get to the lame end.<BR/><BR/>"Wanted" was in such a hurry to start blowing up shit and moving the story forward, that they forgot to let the audience know that the primary characters in the movie were SUPERHUMANS. Still, the people I talked to who saw "Wanted" did not even notice that it was never explained in the movie (it was in the comic) that the characters were superhumans, and that's why they were able to do incredible "matrix-like" stunts in the real world.<BR/><BR/>Now, I am a firm believer that if someone takes the time to put together a GREAT film, that people will flock to see it. I'm talking about the whole package, not just a great script. Sadly, there are very few people in Hollywood today that can put together a GREAT film.<BR/><BR/>"The Dark Knight" is the only GREAT film I have seen this year, and it's really fucking sad that off the top of my head I can't think of any other film this year that was better than "The Dark Knight." Please note my observation is not a slight on TDK, but a sadness in that there is no real competition from any other big Hollywood movie this year.<BR/><BR/>I'm not going to lie. I have been banging my head for the past three month working on my script to make it as original as possible, with original characters, settings, plot, story, everything. But now I realize that I could have just done 1/10th of what I have accomplished so far and it still would be better than 99% of the crap in theaters.<BR/><BR/>In the end, I just can't turn out something that is "by the numbers." I write movies that I would want to go see, not what the market thinks it wants. I am certain that I am going to be a success, but it's still sad to know that all of the effort and time that I am going to put in all of my movies will be lost on most of the general public.Neilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16058601442026855932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-42218942324894185362008-11-17T23:56:00.000-05:002008-11-17T23:56:00.000-05:00Inspiring!! You have me speaking in tongues!Inspiring!! You have me speaking in tongues!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-38078717169540791682008-11-17T20:10:00.000-05:002008-11-17T20:10:00.000-05:00"What's funny, James? I can have an opinion and no..."What's funny, James? I can have an opinion and not a name, it's hardly stopped you disagreeing. State your opinion, but why make it personal by getting snide?"<BR/><BR/>That wasn't personal or snide.<BR/><BR/>I found it funny citing "Anonymous" as a source. Calm down.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16897402622057966364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-12802561722302196192008-11-17T15:45:00.000-05:002008-11-17T15:45:00.000-05:00You now have articulated why I don't give a damn w...You now have articulated why I don't give a damn what "OPINION" people have about my MOVIES - I don't write scripts.<BR/><BR/>NOBODY KNOWS NOTHING. Except the audience. Every word I write is designed to give the audience a chuckle or a thought.<BR/><BR/>Every character I write has at least one moment to shine - EVERY CHARACTER.<BR/>If a lead doesn't appreciate other characters havign good lines, THEY SHOULD BE FIRED. ONE star does not a successful movie make.<BR/><BR/>Imagine trying to pull of the Ocean's movies where only one character stands out. <BR/><BR/>Can you say flop?<BR/><BR/>My characters are all that I care about. They may not have a back story but they will make you understand them.<BR/><BR/>I actually prefer the non-character arc. He's lost it you say. No. I just like to start with a goody-two-shoes character and push them to the edge.<BR/><BR/>Everyone loves to see someone stop taking crap. A hero who begins to kill is more interesting than one who kills the whole time.<BR/><BR/>BTW,<BR/>glad you're back with a discourse with some meat.<BR/><BR/>Characters make situations. Situations make scenes.<BR/>Scenes make a movie.<BR/><BR/>That's my simple technique. I was finishing off a comedy last week and I was glad to see my characters go off on tangents. They decided they wanted to change the ending and it works even better I think.<BR/><BR/>The first thign I do after a logline or premise is to develop the character most juxtaposed to the situation.<BR/><BR/>The WORST rape victim: a virgin<BR/>The WORST next of kin: a violent cop<BR/>The WORST murder target: an ex SEAL<BR/><BR/><BR/>You notice these are not the BEST. That's because you want conflict and tension so you define the least likely person to handle a given situation rationally.Christian H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16847810167041864292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-10594647249208839042008-11-17T13:51:00.000-05:002008-11-17T13:51:00.000-05:00Awesome post.Awesome post.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00731503332816186420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-14493440348991248032008-11-17T12:29:00.000-05:002008-11-17T12:29:00.000-05:00Reverend, you are right!lolReverend, you are right!<BR/><BR/>lolcrosswordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10495338772991002583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-75274292651823687872008-11-17T09:44:00.000-05:002008-11-17T09:44:00.000-05:00Amen! I'm an aspiring screenwriter and have repent...Amen! I'm an aspiring screenwriter and have repented of my.... sang the amazing character. Wonderful post.Emeka Amakezehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03933290792820413011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-2982417842878026482008-11-17T06:37:00.000-05:002008-11-17T06:37:00.000-05:00What's funny, James? I can have an opinion and no...What's funny, James? I can have an opinion and not a name, it's hardly stopped you disagreeing. State your opinion, but why make it personal by getting snide?<BR/><BR/>I have problems with the character and plot because there was next to none of either.<BR/><BR/>As for the Bond I've been watching, you're right. He's been little more than a caricature, and after 20 outings with the same blank slate I was tired of it. Maybe you can get away with it in playboy and pulp novels (I have a problem with neither), but those became movies. They evolved. The last movie worked hard to establish character, plot and story. I'd like to know why he saves the world and sleeps with "the bitches", as you so charmingly put it.<BR/>Casino Royale tried to explain how he starts to become this blase killer. Quantum wasted the chance to further that story and unless they check their course, the series will head straight back to the shallow, gadget-laden, effects-driven production line that Casino Royale rescued it from. I want character. I want story. I want plots that make sense. Must be I'm picky.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-28354889922125570282008-11-17T04:48:00.000-05:002008-11-17T04:48:00.000-05:00I guess none of you saw Dr. No.You know, the origi...I guess none of you saw Dr. No.<BR/><BR/>You know, the original James Bond picture. <BR/><BR/>Of all the James Bond flicks (what 22, now?) I thought this one was the most similar in tone and character to Dr. No.<BR/><BR/>What do you want MM? Sappy soap opera James Bond? Where he cries his feelings on M's sleeve.<BR/><BR/>I liked Quantum. In fact, this is what the Bourne Supremacy SHOULD have been.<BR/><BR/>My biggest problem with the film isn't the plot or character -- it's the action. <BR/><BR/>A wide shot, please. <BR/><BR/>Also please, please, please establish a setup before you payoff the action. <BR/><BR/>Like -- when James Bond attaches an anchor to an inflatable dingy during a high speed boat chase, it would be nice to see it actually tied/hooked to/caught on something else first -- that justifies the boat flying backward.<BR/><BR/>To quote anonymous (that's funny~)<BR/><BR/>"I have to say, I don't think Bond is that strong a character in the movies preceding Casino Royale. "<BR/><BR/>He's not. He sleeps with the bitches. Saves the world from destruction. <BR/><BR/>He was a series of short stories for Playboy magazine that later became a series of pulp novels. <BR/><BR/>QUANTUM definitely embodies ~that~ Bond. And that's the Bond I want to see.<BR/><BR/>Not sure what James Bond you guys have been watching for the past decades.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16897402622057966364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-85252023119080652932008-11-17T03:40:00.000-05:002008-11-17T03:40:00.000-05:00I agree. Quantum's protagonist was weak, its char...I agree. Quantum's protagonist was weak, its characters unexplored, its plot half thought-out. Bond goes rogue has been done at least twice before, right? To boot, there was never any emotional impact or resonance to his rebellion. It feels like he never left the service because the script doesn't force him to rely purely on himself rather than his license to kill. They seemed to be aiming for Bourne and executing it badly.<BR/>I find it interesting that Haggis is credited first this time, suggesting he did most of the initial lifting. Time for a new writing team?<BR/>The producers also have to take responsibility here for allowing the franchise to slip into some of its bad old ways. I have to say, I don't think Bond is that strong a character in the movies preceeding Casino Royale. There are certainly flashes of characterization, but to my mind nothing that feels like an arc. That's what Casino started and Quantum, I feel, has almost wasted. The next one needs to return to form before the series becomes endless cliche and smug one-liners again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-14139240766893045102008-11-17T02:50:00.000-05:002008-11-17T02:50:00.000-05:00Out-fecking-standing. Amen to all that. You excel ...Out-fecking-standing. Amen to all that. You excel yourself MM.<BR/><BR/>(Who are you again? "Man. Mystery Man.")Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-75604233016979938672008-11-16T23:26:00.000-05:002008-11-16T23:26:00.000-05:00I can see . . . I can see!I can see . . . I can see!Joshua Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08239067667651048280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30413383.post-57043755588917828552008-11-16T23:19:00.000-05:002008-11-16T23:19:00.000-05:00Legendary.Legendary.David Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00954618022277834648noreply@blogger.com